024 – The new face of old fashioned medicine

For some time now, technology has been both disruptive and a force for change to even the most stubborn of industries. Dr. Paula Muto hopes that what Uber has done to the taxi industry, her company (UberDoc) can do to healthcare. UberDoc is a web application that makes it easy to connect patients with surgical specialists without referrals, insurance paperwork, or even long wait times.

Dr. Paula Muto

Obviously, this is only for patients who need specialists in a semi-urgent manner. Went to the ER and told you need your Gallbladder taken out as an outpatient? How about you broke your ankle and now you need an outpatient orthopedic surgery referral. These are common issues that can be complicated by not knowing which surgeon to go to, not knowing which surgeons are covered by your insurance, and having to wait weeks to see a specialist – I think we can all relate to this!!

Dr. Muto got her undergraduate degree from Amherst College and then went to medical school at the New York Medical College. She completed her General Surgery residency at Tufts Medical Center and has additional training at Lahey Clinic for Vascular Surgery.

Things to pick up in this episode:

  • Where the idea for her company came from
  • How she convinced doctors to “buy-in” and accept patients through UberDoc
  • What’s it like trying to convince venture capitalists to invest in her company
  • Her thoughts on how UberDoc can transform healthcare delivery in the U.S.
  • Her advice for docs out there thinking of taking a leap into something outside the box but scared to do so
  • How she answers #imnotjustadoc

Music: Julian Avila – Clean/soundcloud.com/italdredrecords

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021 – Click your way into the future

My next guest is Dr. Latisha Rowe, CEO of Click It Clinic. Click It Clinic provides practice management support to allow physicians to interact and treat their patients virtually. For those who don’t know, telemedicine is touted as the next frontier in how physicians and patients will interact in the future. With well over 30 physicians in her network, Dr. Rowe and Click It Clinic are definitely a force to be reckoned with to her competitors.

After graduating from University of Miami for college, she went north and obtained her MD at Temple University School of Medicine. Baylor College of Medicine is where she chose to get her Family Medicine training.

Things to pick up in this episode:

  • Learn about how the fear of failure AND success can cripple you
  • We talk about the quote, “You don’t get what you deserve, you get what you ask for”
  • What’s the buy-in for patients and doctors with telemedicine
  • The difference between partners in business and the employer/employee relationship
  • How she answers #imnotjustadoc


Music: Shooting School/soundcloud.com/contraband-studios/joey

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020 – Medical education on a sisterly level

Imagine getting a chance to work and do something meaningful with your best friend all the time. My next two guests –  Drs. Gameli Dekayie-Amenu & Chantal Stephens-Archer get to do that on a daily basis with their passion project BestiesMD. Best friends since meeting in college at the University of Chicago, Drs. Chantale & Gameli have used YouTube, blog posts, and public speaking to empower women through health education on a relatable  and sisterly level.

Besides being featured in various electronic and print media, they are now jumping into podcasting with their very own – Tea & Cookies Podcast.

Dr. Gameli


Dr. Gameli originally hails from Ghana, but moved to the United States at a very young age. She completed her medical studies and Emergency Medicine residency at Rush University and University of Chicago respectively. Currently she practices as a ER physician in the south suburbs of Illinois.

Dr. Chantale

Dr. Chantale was born and raised in Chicago and went to the prestigious Whitney Young Magnet High School. University of Illinois is where she completed both her medical studies and residency in Internal Medicine. For the past four years, she has been practicing as a Hospitalist.



Things you’ll learn in this episode:

  • How BestiesMD started
  • Their thoughts on the current state of medical journalists
  • Why they favor quality over quantity in the digital age
  • How they’re attempting to level the playing field for underrepresented women in medicine with Medical Mavens.
  • How they answer #imnotjustadoc

Music: Shooting School/soundcloud.com/contraband-studios/joey

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019 – Dr Drai on building momentum with coaching

I’m bringing back an old friend to Docs Outside the Box – Dr. Drai. Dr. Drai was featured on episode 3 where we talked about his breaking point from a pure clinical practice. Dr. Drai continues to be sought after by media for his medical opinions, but now he’s taking his physician coaching to a larger scale.

He is hosting his first ever conference called Momentum in Medicine taking place in Atlanta, GA on April 20 – 22. According to Dr Drai, this is “a conference for medical professional to learn how to monetize their medical degrees and leverage their brand from medicine to mogul.” That’s a lot to live up to,  but based on the speakers he has for this conference – looks like he’s serious!

Things you’ll learn in this episode:

  • What role meditation plays in his daily schedule
  • Who is Momentum in Medicine for
  • Which doctors won’t benefit from this conference
  • Why Dr. Drai thinks you need a coach for your career
  • What to look for in a coach

MUSIC: Jaytwo/Soundcloud.com/Jaytwomusic

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018 – Learning the things you should’ve been taught in medical school

Dr Bonnie Mason

On this episode I get to chat with Dr. Bonnie Mason – CEO of Beyond The Exam Room. Through a combination of online and live courses, Beyond The Exam Room (BTER) educates and prepares physicians for things we all should’ve learned in medical school. Wanna learn to read and understand contracts? Check – There’s a module for that How about learning all that goes into starting/joining/maintaining a private practice? Boom – There’s a module for that. Interested in personal finance? Check – need I say more?! All of these courses are accredited by the University of Louisville and eligible for CME.

She has a knack for giving back. Check out her non-profit organization Nth Dimensions, which boasts the mission of increasing women and under-represented minority representation in the field of orthopedic surgery.

Dr. Mason obtained her undergraduate degree from Howard University in Washington, D.C. She then graduated with her medical degree from Morehouse School of Medicine, and then went back to Howard University to complete an orthopedic surgery residency.

Things you’ll learn in this episode:

  • Top 3 mistakes physicians make when negotiating contracts
  • The items in your contract you should prioritize over salary
  • Is there such a thing as winning at negotiations
  • Her thoughts on having lawyers review physician contracts
  • How she answers #imnotjustadoc

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017 – Step outside the box with Future Proof MD

Future Proof MD

Necessity is the mother of all invention. Everyone has heard this old proverb. It became relevant again during our economic recession in the years of 2007 – 2009.  Although there were plenty of negative events chronicled during the Great Recession, one bright spot was the rise of the personal finance movement. Numerous blogs have spawned from this movement covering everything from paying off student loans to teaching people how to retire by the ripe ‘ole age of 40.  Baby-boomers, millenials, black or white…you name it there’s a personal finance blog for seemingly every demographic.

In this episode, I get to interview Future Proof MD who is a recent entry into the world of personal finance blogs. A self described disciple of The White Coat Investor  (DOTB Episode 6), Future Proof MD started the blog because he wanted a more efficient way to answer common financial questions from fellow medical students and residents. From his Investing 101 series (highly recommended) to his reviews on fin-tech, in less than three years the website has grown to be a major player within the personal finance blog world!

He obtained his medical degree from the University of Missouri and is currently a radiology resident (how does he find the time??) at Florida Hospital in Orlando, Florida.

In this episode you’ll learn:

  • Top 3 financial mistakes physicians are making
  • His advice for young attendings with large student loan debt
  • His personal philosophy on money management
  • Where Future Proof MD will be in five years
  • How he answers #imnotjustadoc


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016 – A Year of Failure

No guests for this episode everyone!  You’ve heard stories from various doctors living outside the box – this episode you get to hear from me!

  • Learn why I called 2016 the Year of Failure for me
  • I started a locums tenens company called Equal Access Health. It’s not your average locums company. Currently we have great opportunities in OB/GYN and Trauma Surgery! Check out the website to learn more and sign up.
  • Hear my challenge to you to get 2017 kicked off with a bang!

Background music: “Free Hip Hop Beat With Hook: Ancestors” by GrizzlysBeatz.com

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015 – Don’t call her a superwoman – Dr Nicole Swiner demystifies the Superwoman Complex

Physician, author, speaker, social media coach, wife, mother, and owner of her own publishing company. Many say it takes superpowers to juggle all of these talents – but my next guest, Dr. Nicole Swiner, will say she’s no superwoman! She truly is living outside the box.

Dr. Nicole Swiner
Dr. Nicole Swiner

In order to drum up more attention for her practice, she started writing medical advice for her town’s  local newspaper. Dr. Swiner’s passions are in women and minority health, stress management, and self care. Years later, with a myriad of columns and articles, she noticed that she covered very similar themes and used this to create her first book: How to Avoid the Superwoman Complex: 12 Ways to Balance Mind, Body & SpiritHer book focuses on the notion that trying to be “all things to all people” is a large reason why people aren’t truly happy and healthy.

Dr. Swiner did her undergraduate studies at Duke University, and obtained her medical degree from the Medical University of South Carolina. From there, she decided Family Medicine was for her, and completed her residency at the University of North Carolina – Chapel Hill. Currently Dr. Swiner is practicng in Durham, North Carolina.

Things you’ll learn in this episode:

  • Why even in this age of dwindling private practices –  she prefers private practice to being hospital employed
  • Her definition of the Superwoman Complex
  • Quick tips on how to create content and become a published author
  • How she learned the importance of self-promotion
  • The what and why behind Swiner Publishing Company
  • How she answers #imnotjustadoc


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